MI5 has warned Chinese government ‘agent’ has been ‘active’ in UK parliament, MPs told


As you may know !

[–]seeyoujim 15 points16 points17 points  (0 children)

I think you might want to learn the difference between murder and manslaughter.

Murder is if you kill someone with intent.

Manslaughter is if you kill someone through your actions without actually trying to kill them be it in self defence or some other thing like ,say, hitting someone on a motorcycle with your car because you are either to arrogant or stupid to remember that you are in a country that drives on a different side of the road than you are used to.

Another charge altogether could well be leaving the scene of an accident . Resisting arrest could be another. Hiding behind your spouses diplomatic immunity may help you run like an utter coward from such things however.
Whether the country you did this in puts pressure upon your own country ,that it generally has good relationship with ,to make you return and stand trial may or may not happen

[–]Southpaw535 30 points31 points32 points  (10 children)

Because generally speaking its a fair comparison. China has a lot of problems and I'm not a fan, but I do find it hard to take massive umbrage with a lot of what gets reported when it appears it is just bad because a non Western power is doing it.

Spying as mentioned is commonplace across all countries. Its not a good thing, but China is just par for the course there. There's been a lot of stories recently about One Belt One Road and how China is practicing economic imperialism when they're doing basically exactly what America did for a century but you still face massive resistance if you bring up the idea of American Imperialism.

China's domestic policies have millions of reasons to be criticised, but the international stuff that makes the news at the moment about 'evil China' is just normal country/emerging superpower stuff and its swept under the rug or handwaved away when the West does it. But now America is threatened by China and we're seeing the end of American hegemony its suddenly all evil when a non Western, especially non capitalist, country does what the West has been doing for centuries.

[–]TheRealKyaryPPamyu 95 points96 points97 points  (1 child)

Edit: to those who want to bring up how bad other countries are, why?

I mean, if you're going to come up with something as simplistic as comparing a country to a "bad guy" in a movie, of course people are going to respond with a more nuanced perspective.

Are you a Chinese spy?

Really sick of the constant accusations of people being bots or shills every time there's a conversation about this. Reddit is such a shithole when it comes to enabling actual discussion. And people like you whose "argument" is the equivalent of an ape slinging shit around are always applauded because confirmation bias and "loudest person in the room" are king here.

[–]LeftanTexist 20 points21 points22 points  (3 children)

RE: Edit

Because every nation spies. It's weird to say "they're accepting the bad guy role" when you're describing something literally every powerful nation does, likely including the one you're living in right now.

It comes across as ignorant and I'll informed.

[–]Badgernomics 37 points38 points39 points  (1 child)

Darling: So you see, Blackadder, Field Marshal Haig is most anxious to
eliminate all these German spies.

Melchett: Filthy Hun weasels fighting their dirty underhand war!

Darling: And, fortunately, one of our spies–

Melchett: Splendid fellows, brave heroes, risking life and limb for Blighty!

From ‘General Hospital’ part of ‘Blackadder goes Forth’

When all is said and done, you know, I just wanted to mention that camDown is your security solution to protect you and your business from peeping toms.